contingency management

[simon]

Look Ursula I am happy to let the matter go because it seems pretty obvious that if these reports exist- as they probably really do-  they cannot actually be scrutinised by the likes of you and me. Your suggestion is welcome so thank you, however, it does not change the fact that an awful lot has been made of this so-called over-whelming evidence yet as it turns out no-one has really seen it have they? Otherwise the easiest thing in the world would have been to simply post a link to it. But, instead just look at all the bluster and effort which has gone in to avoid doing that. The reason why is inescapable now isn't it?

But methinks the point is proven and time to let go. M.

Again I boringly say if you want details of any research let me know and I'll try to find it as I have done previously. you could of course make the effort and find it yourself. I have to pay to my professional body to allow me access to online journals and research it is not free. Why do you think it should be free for everyone to view? If I had written some research or a book I wouldn't be giving it away freely.
You seem so interested in this research but don't get off your backside to find it, I'm sure any Library might even be able to get it.
Again If you want me to do the work for you as you seem so lazy to bother but happy to have a pop at people on the site, let me know. I've of course nothing better to do.
I'll be away for a few days but will check the thread on my return.

[mikey]

That's really good of you Simon, Thank you I take you up on your offer. I await your link when you get back and I appreciate the effort you are making.

[simon]

That's really good of you Simon, Thank you I take you up on your offer. I await your link when you get back and I appreciate the effort you are making.

Mikey,
You will not get a link, time and time again I've asked you what research you want, you cannot get a link as it has to be paid for!
If you tell me what you want i'll find it as you obviously cannot be bothered to go look for yourself. You cannot be bothered to get in touch with NICE as suggested. You seem to know better than anyone else, so why have you not got involved with the NICE work?

[mikey]

of course I knew I would not get a link. I was only messing with you...if you were able to provide such a link you would have done ages ago. But you can't provide what does not exist now can you?

It is time to let things go Simon....just like the unicorn, WMDs in Iraq and Father Christmas....you have to accept that some things are just in the imagination.

Time to wake up and end this thread.

[admin]

Mikey, you're getting dangerously close to trolling now.  There are no links for very good reasons which have been repeatedly explained to you and which are out of the control of the posters here.  Accusing people who have been bending over backwards to explain this and signposting you to where you can find the information of being fantasists is just rude.  You're clearly not a stupid man, so I can only conclude that you're being deliberately obtuse with the express intention of winding people up.  It's making the forum a crappy place to be.  Stop it.

[simon]

Dangerously close to being a troll? - He is a Troll!

[dusty]

I've got proper work to do and shouldn't be wasting my time having to wade in and sort this rubbish out.

Mikey / Simon - let it lie. If you want to continue this can I suggest you swap email addresses and do it away from this forum. These playground games only work to stop people with genuine issues and interests getting involved.

As I see it you've been provided with all the information you need Mikey, but cos it's not what you want you're purposefully dragging it out and it's winding people up. Cut it out.

Simon - the troll comment was unacceptable. I've said before, I'm happy for this forum to generate heated debate, but when it resorts to personal insult it has to stop. Ok?

Topic closed.

Back to work 

[mcdermott]

Simon - the troll comment was unacceptable.

Point of information, boss.

Saying somebody is a troll in a thread like this doesn't mean that they're an ugly little dwarf who lives under a bridge. It simply means that they are deliberately seeking to provoke wind up posters and extend the thread by doing things like being deliberately obtuse.

I'm pretty sure that Simon wasn't seeking to insult Mikey. He was simply using a generally accepted form of internet shorthand to describe his behavior. If he'd said exactly the same thing in long form, nobody would have a problem with it.

Also: I think you'll find Ursula called him a troll first.

Also, also: Mikey, Simon was saying that you won't get a link -- not because the studies don't exist, but because he was proposing to send you paper copies from the relevant journals. After having paid for those copies out of his own pocket. I wouldn't bother, myself, as I know I'd be wasting my time -- you'd just claim that I'd run them up on my own computer or something -- but Simon's nicer than I am.

[mikey]

W.

[mikey]

Thank Simon for me but now it has been confirmed that these documents are not available all over the web I will in fact attempt to purchase hard copies myself, but i appreciated his offer.
Though Peter can we consider the matter closed now along with daft cartoon descriptions being bandied about. I am a real person with real feelings. Not a character from a Disney cartoon and to suggest as such is as improper as me suggesting the two people who called me that have voice-overs by Mike Myers and Eddie Murphy. It is better such name-calling stops.

[simon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war

[mikey]

http://www.shrek.com/noflash.html

[bp]

Enough!!  Please stop this or at least change the 'Subject' to something like 'Pathetic attempt at oneupmanship" so that I can then avoid it, rather than opening up your post only to find that is has nothing to do with "Contingency Management". This is so boring.

Beryl

[mcdermott]

http://www.flamewarriors.com/warriorshtm/kungfumaster.htm