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« on: November 09, 2011, 10:52:28 AM »

Hi guys,

Newbie here lol! Well I'm 36yrs old an had been using since i was 14/15yr old tried many MANY types of detox's an failed. But have been on a meth script for last 10yrs an not used in that time. Started on 120ml cut myself to 60 then 30 then on 10ml for last 3yrs an basically it was sorting me out for few hrs thru the day and at night was dreadful but I feared the getting off it so much I just plodded on at work and in life. But I took my last 10ml sunday morning and have had nothing since except nuramol the new painkiller lol an a sleeper at night! CDTS gave me sum subby's to take but just thought I'm gonna feel rough so might aswell see how I go. Off to clinic tonight an I know for a fact my doctors gonna be amazed when I give her the ten tablets back! I've shocked myself how well I've done. I wish I'd done it sooner. Think because of the rattles I've done before it put me off an I thought it would be the same. But because I've suffered anyway been on a low dose for so long it wasn't as bad. I mean I've no energy the creepie crawlies in my skin an my legs I feel like cutting off lol but its getting easier now its 3rd day. Think this is a great forum because in the past ya had nothing like this. So well done all for contributing to it and good luck with all you are attempting.

All the best, Ang xxx
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 02:52:40 PM »

Hi, and welcome!

Well done, it's certainly an achievement!

Has the nuramol got codeine in it? If it has watch out for using too much of it.

Can you get any lofexidine or clonidine from your CDT or GP? It will help with the restless achy leg problem, and can help with anxiety levels as it reduces blood pressure.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 05:17:32 PM »

Let me echo Sapphire..well done to you and welcome to the site.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 09:19:52 PM »

 Grin Yes....Welcome

Do you know, I think we have some converters who were curious over the maintained Cheesy

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 09:34:20 PM »

Hi Ang

A belated welcome to the forum and well done you for how well you're doing.  I'm sure you'll find many people have good advice and encouragement for you here.

Hope things are improving but, as you know, these things take time and everyone's different.  Just take it easy...and slowly!

All the best

Jules
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 08:34:02 AM »

Hi all todays another day lol bit emotional tbh an just blummin bored! kids off to school partner home from nights an off to bed an im just stuck with the tv. No energy at all. The nuramol didnt have codeine in it. But now im just on ibuprofen an panadol an a sleeper at night still. cant take lefoxidine as it lowered my blood pressure too much on a last detox over 10yr ago an i was rushed to hospital from the unit, turns out im allergic to it lol. Im doing alright though apart from the time going tooo slow (that drives me mad) an wanting 2/3 baths a day lol. I know I should just get dressed an go out but I cant yet. So think I'll go through kids bedrooms an tidy them up. Keep myself busy. Thanks for ya replies they really do help spurn you on  Grin Ang xxx
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 09:17:19 AM »

HI Ang,Welcome to the Alliance,Your doing well ,all the best Froude
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 09:39:25 AM »

Thank you Froude its amazing how much it spurs you on people telling you your doing well Smiley have a good day all x
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 12:02:45 PM »

Yeah it does spur you on people saying your doing well,your get a lot of that on the Alliance Grin,the people on here are great.Always something on here that you can get your teeth into but most of all everyone on here is helpful and at least someone will have gone through or experienced what your going through.Hope you get as much out of the Alliance as i have,All the best Froude.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 08:01:44 PM »

Angiesims, welcome and well done.

Third day clean and things are beginning to improve; think how you may feel in 3 months??

It a long old process, regaining that 'normal' feeling; even when 'restless legs' are no more, the lethargy and boredom, the minutes like hours, may last for months; how long appears seems to an individual thing. That you are used to feeling rough via the 10ml, for three years, has made it less of a shock to the system.

It sounds as if you have a sound home life and are currently motivated to slay the dragon once and for all.

The legs at least will soon be restful again, the energy will begin to return and the mood will lift; even natural sleep, and more than 2 hours a night may, eventually, become a distinct possibility.

I wish you all the very best.

This post made me think  Huh? Isn't it a strange phenomena, that maintained folk are always genuinely happy for an individual who achieves abstinence. Unfortunately, the abstinence-crazed do not reciprocate this gesture to the medically assisted.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 08:53:20 PM »

Hi Angie

Sorry I missed your introduction post.  Sounds as though you are coping with a new medication free life so im not going to say well done as everybody else has said it for me. I don't want to freak you - I could be totally wrong as all metabolisms work differently, but just be careful because, even in smaller doses, after such prolonged use, cutting off your methadone dose completely can catch up with you and make you feel anxious for some time. I hope I am wrong here. However I trust that you know the ropes here as you seem to be a long term user like me and other members here - but if you should cry out to the doc for something to ease any withdrawal pangs. Maybe codeine based would help maybe a couple of dihydrocodeine 10mg but just enough to get you through the day if you get pangs. All sounds good and keeping busy. Welcome
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 02:50:33 AM »

Hi all OMG its a feckin nightmare lol. Took a sleeper went to bed bout 11 an aint slept a wink. It aint new to me this I remember the last time I got clean which was 10yr ago I didn't sleep right ever til I used again. Its crazy how it affects everything.You get these bursts of proudness then instantly after prangs of fear. I've always used drugs since I was 12yr old. I've tried everything. And I've a highly addictive personality. With this I'm gonna see how I go on over week-end and then see my doctor. I feel fine I'm surprised how fine but the legs just cant bare it. I remember thru all my detox's I used to kick my bare legs on the walls an punch them lol. I can't really do that when my 2 kiddies are snoring their lil heads off. I've booked 3 week off work for this. I've got a demanding job so gotta get it done. Jimmy your so right about the boredom. I get in the bath feel like its been an hour an its literally ten mins. The adverts on tv seem to take hours LOL. Thats the killer is boredom, time going slow, just waiting to feel totally right and I know I never will. Not completely. I totally agree with you on your last comment about the ones on meds helping the ones going thru detox. It should be reciprocated. Its not easy. And I think no matter how many times you try or whatever means you try it YOUR TRYING. Im a believer in meds. Because it stopped me scoring when I had my kids and luckily they've never seen nothing. It aids people. Thats the point in them isn't it. Some people may never get off. I may be the same. So I'll never knock anyone for what they do. I've done far too much shit to do that LOL. And thank you useandthem I will see how I go I can get hold of df's not a problem. I've only took 3 panadol today and a sleeper. Feck me to think I would of knacked all the sleepers in by now but Im been good Smiley Love this forum it really makes a difference Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 11:40:36 AM »

Well today is a hard hard day! Its just took me ten mins to get into a banana! No energy the dreaded runs have started urghhhhhhhh! And as I lay in my 4th bath of the day I think about the 30ml of meth an 10 subby's I've got in my cupboard and think if I just av a lil drink of that green stuff in half hour all this will be gone! But the fact its there is spurring me on to not touch owt. Day 5 on nowt but shite painkillers an sleepers. If it wasn't for my kids I swear I would of given up. Maybe lol. Can't wait til they are home from school cos the day seems to take 48hours Sad cried my eyes out at the old comrades did my 2mins silence and thought ang this is nowt compared to what them old fella's went thru. So I'm off for my 5th bath and waste time tidying up. Have a great day everyone. Sure I'll be back to moan some more tomorrow Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 12:06:03 PM »

Angie, Im Having trouble posting. It could be that Ugg Boot virus?? Try going back to 10ml a day and then taper down from there at 1ml a month. It doesnt seem a lot but the reduction percentages rise as you get to lower doses and also your metabolism also plays catch up. Methadone is awkward to come off even at small doses especially when you have stopped your dose dead. See the GP or DSP see what they say. You seem to be trying so good for you.

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2011, 03:47:14 PM »

Hey Angie

For some people, just knowing that accessing 'it' thus relieving the pain is possible, can help with the craving/withdrawal side of coming off - it would appear that this is whats happening with you at the moment. It becomes a personal battle: you vs the opiate - a motivational tool. As many have suggested, going back up and then down again, but at a much slower rate may work and is certainly nothing to be ashamed of; on the other hand, if are determined to become substance free at some point, it could prolong the torture. Detox is never going to be pain free and you appear to be coping well. You seem determined and your children spur you on; I have an inkling that the 'stash' will remain untouched, to be thrown with gusto down the nearest toilet some time in the not to distant future. How long it takes sleep to return usually determines, for me, whether I sink or swim. My sleep, in the 'wake up refreshed' sense of the word, post detox, simply does not return; as a result my mental health deteriorates as does my ability to function and back to opiates I return - without fail. Thus, abstinence-wise I'm a sinker but found subutex, stability and contentment back in 2007.

Keep going.

Wishing you all the best
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