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« on: October 25, 2011, 10:01:22 AM »

I asked if anybody had been told that maintenance is illegal and if so would they pm me?
no responces?
does anybody want things to change or is this forum just full of talkers who actually dont care?

IF U HAVE BEEN TOLD THE ABOVE IT IS UP TO U TO PUT AN EFFORT IN, just bitching alone helps nobody.

many people say addicts are gobshites, insincere, I do not, was I wrong?

stop being cowards.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 11:01:03 AM »

Methadone maintenance therapy is not illeagal in the UK. It is a matter for you & your GP to discuss whether you want to reduce or whether you feel safer being maintained on a dose. Enforced reductions rarely work is what the United Nations advises their member countries.
Where do you live, Pluto ? Do you not read any other posts but your own, maintenance is quite a hot topic just now & I believe is talked about in many threads.
I think it's safe to say that most regular posters on the site wish to be maintained, some want diamorphine, some methadone, some bupe. People can lead productive lives on all three substances if provided legally.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2011, 11:30:05 AM »

I think there is a lot of misinformation and services doing what they think they should be doing, not doing what they should be doing. I also think commissioners are being pushed and don't push back.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2011, 11:33:27 AM »

Were you told by your key, GP, DSP that maintenance was illeagal  Huh?
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 06:31:51 PM »

Its 7.30pm Tuesday if you dont hear from me for about 7yrs that means i have been arrested and sentenced(all in the same day)to one of Her Majesty's Prison's for the heinious crime of MAINTENENCE,METHADONE MAINTENENCE,im sorry i let you all down ,tell my parents I LOVE THEM,and ill see you in 7ok,All the best Alliance members its been good times LOVE YOU ALL,Froude.(couldnt even go not guilty,feel let down Angry
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 06:42:43 PM »

TPV - How can maintenance be illegal? That's just obserd!! Who could come out with such tripe? If maintenance were illegal then they would not have given it to me at court via my court registered DIP worker. Where is this post going TPV. First you say they won't let you reduce at your rate - then you say they won't let you stay in maintenance and that it is somehow illegal. You need to speak to the DSP Manager for clarification or your Local PCT or PALS if this nurse or key is bothering you that much. They should cater to your queries or needs as they are supposed to be public servants working for you. Keep safe  Wink John
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 07:00:36 PM »

Were you told by your key, GP, DSP that maintenance was illeagal  Huh?


Either that or the shock of withdrawal has sent TPV round the twist. Tying rocks to his todger to improve his sex life rather indicates the latter, let's hope he comes out the other side in time.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2011, 05:09:24 AM »

Personally i think he is winding us up ,if he is acting like this on here then what is he like around others in his valley,ive done some clucks and never been like this,and 99% of the time it was a raw cluck and madness did not set in ,only 6 weeks of no sleep or an hour there and an hour here.If he has lost his marbles then it is up to him to get himself to the doctors and sort himself out.Oh by the way TP,does it work?stretching your penis,if so my mate wants ago .Sort it out mate ,MENTAL ILLNESS IS NOT A JOKE,Hope you feel better soon,All the best Froude.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2011, 07:00:03 AM »

Either that or the shock of withdrawal has sent TPV round the twist. Tying rocks to his todger to improve his sex life rather indicates the latter, let's hope he comes out the other side in time.

Or at least stops tossing off so much, his mum & dad will be more ashamed if he can't give that habit up. A meth habit is far more socially acceptable. I think anyway ?
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 07:39:57 AM »

Everyone has been told by their treatment provider that they have been told they cant get maintenance,
pluto?
apparently I was not the only distant person then?

IS IT RIGHT THAT THIS MISSINFORMATION IS USED TO EARN MONEY?
IS IT MADNESS TO STOP AN INJUSTICE NATIONALLY THAT CAUSES DEATH?

Is it hypopcricy for those who bitch about misstreatment or lack of compassion are the very same hypocrites who call the potentially vulnerable nut cases etc?
water off a ducks back to me, but it shows what kind of peole u really are!
Do any of u deserve compassion when many of u have none?

THINK ABOUT YOURSELVES.
Obviously those who this makes no sense to are entirely deserving of their own misery and have my deepest sympathies.
One word for you-"OBOKU", it means fit only for meat.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2011, 08:32:25 AM »

Dear me, everybody was very supportive though maybe a bit worried about your method of detox & the ever so slightly weird posts. If you've been told maintenance is illeagal & you didn't challenge it or contact the Alliance for advocacy then you have only yourself to blame. The minute I heard of DSPs telling people that maintenance was going to stop I asked my GP about it & we both agreed that I would be better maintained until I decided that I wanted to reduce, as in his opinion forced reduction does more harm than good. I put a complaint in about key hassling me to reduce when myself & trained professional GP have decided what's best for me, not what's best for key or DSP & that's what the Guidlines advise. Luckily for me I have a very good relationship with my prescribing GP & I turned up at an appointment with him Orange Guidlines in hand. Far from dismissing it he thinks that we should stick to the guidlines.
No point bitchin at the posters here, I think most of us have had to do the same if we want to stay in maintenance. If you feel like you've been forced off your script & want it back go complain to your DSP.
If only to stop your chronic masturbation habit.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 09:32:33 AM »

What are you saying here, TPV? That we're all selfish bastards and you alone care about everyone else?

Maybe you should choose your words better - you use illegal, for example, when you appear to mean unavailable.

Congratulations on finally coming off.

Out of deference to your fragile condition at present, I'll refrain from commenting on the rest.
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 09:39:49 AM »

Meh, whatever  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 01:00:00 PM »

The boy Sapphire says it all.  Cool
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 02:47:03 PM »

What 'ho Derek old girl, how are the peacocks?

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