One sugar or Two?

[usandthem]

The recovery initiative is picking up momentum..Users have been overwhelmed at the trouble CRI have gone through to facilitate every users need. I mean they have given us a service users only run canteen where service users can go for a cup of tea and a bacon sarnie. Some users may even have time to heat up the old spoon if no-ones looking. We should be ever grateful that CRI have gone through all these troubles. They will even find you a job ,of their choosing, in the voluntary sector. The commissioners know exactly where their government loot is to be spread. I am in total awe of what this company have gone out of their way to do for us. And yet all they ask for in return is for us to give up our methadone and become obedient to the plans they have in store for us. I believe once the recovery slash treatment plans go ahead then its all systems go for CRI - as they all listen to their anthem of 'There's no stopping us now - we're on the move' and the purple goddesses that are overwhelmed with the speed of the new recovery initiatives success rate. Beautifully written drafts adorn the office for the commissioners next 'recovery' contract. Keyworkers punching the air and hugging eachother saying, "Yes - lets break them in - these spoilt brats have had it too easy. Its worked we have tamed the junkies and now we can whip them into work." Once the new initiative experiment starts to see results - the commissioners may already be looking into how they can reduce folk with diabetes off their insulin. "It will be o.k its only 2ml a month you won't feel it honest!" The old line never fails. Users who don't comply with company policy will be made to feel uncomfortable and will be assigned to a Militant Hardline Reductionist Key-worker to have their heads filled with unwarranted guilt. But, you still get the bacon sarnie and the cup of tea. "So, is it one sugar or two?"

[AllOut]

Dont diabeties get that thing called being dead if they come off their Insulin? Just teasing lol

[sapphire]

Totally of the point, but, I have just started some meds for diabetes, and I am sooo very amazed at the effect they have had. I have lost a stone in weight in 4 weeks (after 2 years of not being able to lose a single pound) and I have energy, I just feel "better". It's quite amazing what can happen when you finally get the right meds for your condition.

I have had 2 years of the doctors not believing me when I said what I was eating (they thought I was telling them I was eating 5 a day, low fat, low sugar, low carbs, but was chomping through all the pies in England), but now I have my sensible diet PLUS these meds I feel really good, the weight loss is going to make my arthritis better hopefully, as less weight,less pressure on the old joints. It's a shame it took 2 years for them to listen to me, and now I realise how well these meds are working for me, I am quite angry I have had to suffer for so long.

[OP8S]

Nice one sapph, very happy for you. 
Can't see it but if C.R.I ever come my way, I'll be re-newing old friendships.

[AllOut]

Saph thats awesome story you must be well chuffed, Why the hell didnt they beleive you thats really bad on their part  must be like a new lease of life for you tho x x x

[froude]

Same as my misses sister in law ,just been diagnosed with diabetes,they gave her the tablets and now she lst 4or5 pound in one week,knowing her they got the script and gave her slimming tablets lol,NO! I only jest ,seems to be working for her ,All the best Froude

[sapphire]

Dont diabeties get that thing called being dead if they come off their Insulin? Just teasing lol

But surely Simon, people who are forced to come of scripts may end up either dead of an OD or getting a BBV when they inevitabley use again, and then die of complications from that, or DVT's and other associated health risks?

I am really (pleasantly) surpised how well I feel since getting these new diabetes meds, I don't feel as depressed or lethargic, I'm not constipated all the time, I'm not tired all the time.

Just annoyed it took 2 years to be believed that I was actually ill, not just a porker!!

[simon]

But surely Simon, people who are forced to come of scripts may end up either dead of an OD or getting a BBV when they inevitabley use again, and then die of complications from that, or DVT's and other associated health risks?

I am really (pleasantly) surpised how well I feel since getting these new diabetes meds, I don't feel as depressed or lethargic, I'm not constipated all the time, I'm not tired all the time.

Just annoyed it took 2 years to be believed that I was actually ill, not just a porker!!

It wasn't me you were quoting, you had your diabetic retinal screening? 

[physeptomaton]

Same as my misses sister in law ,just been diagnosed with diabetes,they gave her the tablets and now she lst 4or5 pound in one week,knowing her they got the script and gave her slimming tablets lol,NO! I only jest ,seems to be working for her ,All the best Froude

Lol no, no chalkies (TENUATE-DOSPAN) or big appisate tabs that are speed that smell like weird vitamins, doubt theyre gonna give them out now.
Filon was the best but it went in the 80s for abusability.

[AllOut]

It wasn't me you were quoting, you had your diabetic retinal screening? 

It was me and yeah your right Saph im eating my words

[sapphire]

It wasn't me you were quoting, you had your diabetic retinal screening? 

Oooh, sorry Simon! 

[OP8S]

Mistakes are made by the NHS everyday, but they're usually not life threatening & it's a huge organisation The NHS, sometimes they fuck up but they're the last thing we want to lose. Sapph probably wouldn't even know she had type 2 diabetes if she lived in the Good Ol'  US.

[sapphire]

Whilst I'd hate to have the system they have in the US for general medical care as I think the NHS is great, the one good thing they do have over us, is that if they are going to a MMT clinic that is shit, they can just change to another one.

I was only diagnosed because I had been trying for 2 years or more to lose weight and had not lost 1 pound, but had not put any on either. I knew there was something wrong with me (obv. I didn't know it was diabetes) but the doctors just kept thinking I was telling them I was eating a good diet, but in reality I was stuffing myself. I know this to be fact as I have seen one of the letters one of the hospital doctors sent to my GP,in which is said that their opinion was that I was being less then honest about my true calorie intake. Which makes me a bit hmmm, as if I was lying, and stuffing myself, surely I would have been putting on weight.

If I hadn't kept on and on at them about it I dread to think how long it could have gone on for, or what damage it could have done, having it and it not being treated.

[Anon33]

Totally of the point, but, I have just started some meds for diabetes, and I am sooo very amazed at the effect they have had. I have lost a stone in weight in 4 weeks (after 2 years of not being able to lose a single pound) and I have energy, I just feel "better". It's quite amazing what can happen when you finally get the right meds for your condition.

I have had 2 years of the doctors not believing me when I said what I was eating (they thought I was telling them I was eating 5 a day, low fat, low sugar, low carbs, but was chomping through all the pies in England), but now I have my sensible diet PLUS these meds I feel really good, the weight loss is going to make my arthritis better hopefully, as less weight,less pressure on the old joints. It's a shame it took 2 years for them to listen to me, and now I realise how well these meds are working for me, I am quite angry I have had to suffer for so long.

Are you on Metformin....makes u skinny that....my pal has polycystic ovaries got px that then got pregnant after 14 years of trying

[sapphire]

Yep, I am on Metformin and glucosomething (can't recall the name at present), I was told by the GP it would help with fertility but after getting the Hep diagnosis I don't think getting pregnant is a very good idea.
I'm not sure what the risk is of passing it from mother to child, but it's not one I'm prepared to take.