Can you answer this Please.

[skroe]

I'm on Methadone Has you know, I waited many months to be put on Methadone.
Piss tests, Blood tests etc, So I know how long it takes..


This is where my Question comes in
My Brother has never been really truthful sorry to say.

Ive had a feeling he had been using, had pulling the wool over my parents eyes.. Just with no evidence, I dont see him alot.

Anyway, The last time I seen him he had a Bottle full of Subutex, Then He had a New Doctor who Prescribed him two DF's 120 mg, He told me that is Girlfriend was giving him Oxy's too.
Now he's Getting Methadone!! And its a Weekly Take home script From this Doctor!!
I really hope he sorts himself out, I really do!! When I dispute him, he tells me thats its the truth!! Its pointless arguing, because he wont give in.

I just cant see it, Firstly prescribed DF's, Then Methadone, 50 mils, He did say he went up, but made out that 30 wasn't holding him, He said he Reckons at 60 He will be Alright.
Do You think such a Doctor exists?

The reason why He'd make this up, is- He promised that he was clean, For the last Year and half!!.. So If he went via the Normal route of getting Methadone, it would prove he'd been bullshiting all along.. My Dad got him into a nice Clean hostel, He left that to stay with his GF, but she asked him to move out!!
He Got another hostel, Thats full of Addicts etc & easy to buy gear from.
He forgets that I'm an addict too, but been pretty much clean, apart from the odd slip ups.
One more Thing is, He's hanging around with his Ex, the mother of his child she's been an addict too, they both stayed at my flat for months Injected two years ago now. So he's sorted there, to visit his daughter.
They dont like this area though, due to owing money to some dealers, but this area is full of the shit, Both have been driving here, daily at times at night, for no other reason I can Imagine than to buy gear.
But they got more excuses for everything so I dont bother them.

I just hope He sorts himself out, for his daughter-which he do love, and my parents..
So do you reckon he's Lying again, with this GP, I've never heard of?

Thanks..

I really hope that believe him but can't, just hope he sorts Himself out. 
 

[mcdermott]

The position that I take in regard to such matters is this: when people have given me enough reason to withdraw my trust, I withdraw it until they give me enough reason to reverse my view on the matter. This never involves what somebody tells me, and always depends on how they act. And I need to see a fairly extended period of trustworthy behaviour before that opinion changes.

Someone having a rapidly changing assortment of prescribed medication wouldn't inspire trust in me that they were stable. What he tells you may or may not be true -- but I still wouldn't be giving them any large sums of money, or letting them take care of my home while I was away if they were related to me.

I'd wanna see things like, oh, getting a job, saving his money for a flat, taking care of his girlfriend and his kid, etc. before I felt he was dependable. And if you don't think he's trustworthy,  it really doesn't much matter what the details of his activities are, does it? All that matters is that you're able to make a decision about how much trust you/your family put in him.

[alli]

It may be that he feels more ashamed of his addiction than you do and feels he has got to lie and hide it from everyone - there also may be sibling competitiveness going on - wanting to look the better son as far as his parents are concerned - and maybe this is the area where you feel a bit peeved.  He might be scared that if he lets you know - that you will let you're parents know - so you don't look like 'the bad one who's done drugs'.  Its sounds like you know that he is and has been using and are a bit pissed off at him trying to hide it from you - for whatever reason.  Anyway, you're not going to be able to make him tell you - and catchin him out will just cause resentment.  By getting your life right for you, you will become a positive role-model for your brother - and at some later stage he may be able to be honest with you. alli x

[skroe]

Thanks, I just wrote a big reply only for me to lose it..damn!!

I think your both dead right, Really I think hes protecting his EX/GF..They lived well, or dossed is a better word, they never paid for gas, eleccy etc at mine, I could'nt belive how sly she was, she comes across so nice, but she would skeme you- to you where blue, She has a strange hold on him. Even though she speaks to him like shit.
If she was found out using again, Christ So many things would go wrong for her, shes a good liar, and can turn bad situations to her gain, and come out of it smelling of roses, while you looks the C^nt!!
She deffo uses him.
Anyway while they are together, they are up to something, yes they got a kid, But I think her mum looks after her.
She's said so much crap about my Dad, that my Mum and Dad don't get to see there Granddaughter. He Dont say Nothing!!, Its if shes poisoned him against my Parents so feels They don't love him Equal! They found out my and my brother where Addicts and Injecting, Because she was stupid to be caught herself!! So Made up a Sob story that We got her on the shit!!, She was using and Injecting before she met my Brother!!

But yeah I know them two, to well, I'm worried about my bro though, they are not clean while injecting, and my brother had an infection around his heart before, I dont want this to happen again.
Plus I want to see him, Alone, But she reads his Emails Texts everything, I dont want to see her, Being False. I know she will turn up
I wish he could see sense, I bet If hes got it on take home, Its not just him using the Methadone..Hopefully She might of changed for the good, but I cant see it. She used to Inject b4 she met my Bro.
I seen her take cash from peoples pockets then buy gear from the same person, That guy was just has bad, Ive never stole for my shit in the past, those of you that have read my posts whill know about the dealers, and people that have f^cked me over.

I wonder if he ever sorts himself- This time for good!!, Hes got a good heart, just he ticks and never pays back, She gets my Bro to tick or other people..
Ive had people here asking for him, Theirs a few people after him in this area.
My Bro and her have been seen driving to here, This Estate at night, This area is pretty easy to score though, but he's got people after him for debts,They they left me to handle there debts, which I paid up, including a big tick in the £100's they never gave me nothing for it, This tick was for our morning hits at the time, It was hard work, with them asking me to ask for tick This guy a knew well, He used to say use it here, But I thought I couldn't be dark on them, Well I paid it All in the end!!

I really Don't want the worries, In case He gets that Heart Infection again, My Parents dont need it!! Its them who He turns too when hes in real shit.
I hope is Ex is Different in good ways..My Mum and Sister sussed her out straight away, They say Women can pick up on mean people..

I'm On TV soon, In a Documentary about Graffiti on BBC, Plus I'm giving up Smoking with the help of on of them Electronic Fags..lol..
Anyway Take care


Anyway, hope I dont lose this, Its strange when you lose everything you typed!!
Take care..
Kevin   

[Sammy]

Society places a lot of pressure on users,suggesting what they are doing is morally wrong.Also,there is the illegality of drug use and the stigma ie.one could lose ones job,family ,social status,even ones council home, so is it any wonder users tend to be secrative.I lived in Holland for a number of years and attitudes are much different over there it so refreshing compared to the claustrophobic atmosphere in UK.You need to respect your bro and give him space but letting him know you are there for him.He might have everything under control.

[MotherSuperior]

Well, I am useless at offering this sort of advice. People are always using me. In fact I have two people staying at my house and they've been causing a lot of trouble to the extent I may lose it. I am even having trouble getting them to leave despite the fact they never pay anything or with protest... but the guy is a good guy at heart and all I can say is his habit and his girl can make him do some pretty low things and it for his sake I'm going to have so much trouble doing what I'm going to have to do(*sigh*)... I guess he's like your bro. Another example of 2 people that would be held by an amp script where oral scripts have failed them both for years.... anyway it's damned hard, if your like me, to be tough but I also find it tough to take the shit for other people like you have with being stiffed for money. I would not trust him until he earns your trust, what has REALLY changed from before?

One thing I would have to say is that I would think it pretty unlikely that a doctor would prescribe any other opiate/opiod with Subutex coz they won't really work in doses higher than 0.4mg at which *from memory they exert such a 'blocking' effect on the mu receptor(major opiate receptor) that the other drug would be useless... at any dose has a blocking effect anyway and for this reason is hardly ever prescribed with full agonists like DHC, methadone, oxycodone. I believe that most people that take Subutex(buprenorphine) for the purposes of opiod/opiate dependency take at least 2mg, the lowest suby tablet is 0.2mg, I *think* 8mg=30mg of methadone but I would not rely on that comparison at all. One thing is for sure, bupe and other full agonists are hardly EVER prescribed together. I admit I once had DF's from my GP and Subutex from my DDU but that was a while back when we first started using subby's for addiction now I don't think it would happen so if he says he is getting or has got two together than I would be suspicious.

The other thing I was going to suggest, if you lose whole texts accidentally, right click and use 'undo'(if like me you accidently type fast and sloppy and select/'delete all'). It will undo anything in that text window from when you opened the window.